Comments on: A new day, a new version http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281 An Assembly member's take on Anchorage issues Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:11:00 -0900 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: rachel http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-391 rachel Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:38:28 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-391 i don't think i am undermining marrage one bit... i think others do a great job of that on their own! this issue isn't about marrage at all... i don’t think i am undermining marrage one bit…
i think others do a great job of that on their own!

this issue isn’t about marrage at all…

]]> By: Michael Johnson http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-390 Michael Johnson Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:46:35 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-390 A sexual preference does not deserve the same protected status as religion or race. If it is your preference to live with and have sexual intimacy with a member of the same sex, that is your choice. It doesn't give you the right to undermine marriage or force taxpayers to pay for your preference. People of faith have a right to disagree with you and a biblical mandate to oppose the acceptance of a sinful lifestyle. Homosexuals are in defiance of God's Word. Their argument is with God, not people of faith. People of faith are only being obediant to a greater God. God loves all people but will never condone sin in any form. The world is taking sides and Christian bashing is rampant. Remember what Jesus said in John 15:18-19, (The World’s Hatred) “If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. Those that oppose God's order of life will continue to "gnash their teeth" to get the government to give them special rights. Not only is this in direct conflict with God's word, it violates the very essence of the U.S. Constitution. Homosexuals have the same equality as everyone else. What they're after is special rights in order to get the government to punish outspoken Christians who are exhibiting their rights of freedom of speech and religion. You can't implement special rights without denying the rights of others! A sexual preference does not deserve the same protected status as religion or race. If it is your preference to live with and have sexual intimacy with a member of the same sex, that is your choice. It doesn’t give you the right to undermine marriage or force taxpayers to pay for your preference. People of faith have a right to disagree with you and a biblical mandate to oppose the acceptance of a sinful lifestyle. Homosexuals are in defiance of God’s Word. Their argument is with God, not people of faith. People of faith are only being obediant to a greater God. God loves all people but will never condone sin in any form. The world is taking sides and Christian bashing is rampant. Remember what Jesus said in John 15:18-19, (The World’s Hatred)
“If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

Those that oppose God’s order of life will continue to “gnash their teeth” to get the government to give them special rights. Not only is this in direct conflict with God’s word, it violates the very essence of the U.S. Constitution. Homosexuals have the same equality as everyone else. What they’re after is special rights in order to get the government to punish outspoken Christians who are exhibiting their rights of freedom of speech and religion. You can’t implement special rights without denying the rights of others!

]]> By: clark http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-384 clark Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:46:28 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-384 why do transgenders deserve any less protection? some people are more equal than others? why do transgenders deserve any less protection?
some people are more equal than others?

]]> By: rachel http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-382 rachel Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:36:50 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-382 I urge you not to dilute the measure- pass a STRONG statement to the municipality of anchorage, that this will not be tollerated. by allwoing exceptions, you are saying its ok, b/c you are small to discriminate. I urge you not to dilute the measure- pass a STRONG statement to the municipality of anchorage, that this will not be tollerated. by allwoing exceptions, you are saying its ok, b/c you are small to discriminate.

]]> By: Joey Brockhouse http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-381 Joey Brockhouse Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:50:46 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-381 Bigotry is wrong. It is wrong if based in religion. It is wrong if it is based on personal belief. To express that belief in the privacy of one's own home or church it only affect those who choose to be there. When expressed in public the bigot and their bigotry is thrust upon all who are in the area. We do not have the choice to avoid the bigotry because it is allowed in public. There is the constitution which forbids the establishment of a state religion this is what the ordinance you the assembly does do. Bigots based on a book the majority of which was written 2000 or more years ago will in 2009 be allowed to treat one set of citizens as a sub-class of human not deserving of the full protection of the constitution. Like my family members until the 50's gay human beings will be legally treated by bigots as something less than human and our city assembly will be standing by the side of the bigots. I am lucky enough to have missed the signs that read, " Indians and dogs not allowed" or “Indians and dogs Keep off the grass." My father experienced the signs and the bigotry that went with it. Native children only a few years older than I am lived through it. I was born in 1962. I was spared the signs. I spent the first five years of grade school without being spoken to or when one brave soul took the time to speak to me they were whisked away by the teacher to be told the error or their ways and I continued to live in silence. Thank you for the memories that the bigoted folks in Anchorage dredged up from the haze of the past with their demonstrations. I wonder that if it is legal for bigots to discriminate against gays why would they complain to any entity of the city of Anchorage. Is there a way I don't know about to count the incidents that are never reported? It seems to be a waste of paper. Do the right thing and pass one of the first two ordinances. Bigotry is wrong. It is wrong if based in religion. It is wrong if it is based on personal belief. To express that belief in the privacy of one’s own home or church it only affect those who choose to be there. When expressed in public the bigot and their bigotry is thrust upon all who are in the area. We do not have the choice to avoid the bigotry because it is allowed in public. There is the constitution which forbids the establishment of a state religion this is what the ordinance you the assembly does do. Bigots based on a book the majority of which was written 2000 or more years ago will in 2009 be allowed to treat one set of citizens as a sub-class of human not deserving of the full protection of the constitution. Like my family members until the 50’s gay human beings will be legally treated by bigots as something less than human and our city assembly will be standing by the side of the bigots. I am lucky enough to have missed the signs that read, ” Indians and dogs not allowed” or “Indians and dogs Keep off the grass.” My father experienced the signs and the bigotry that went with it. Native children only a few years older than I am lived through it. I was born in 1962. I was spared the signs. I spent the first five years of grade school without being spoken to or when one brave soul took the time to speak to me they were whisked away by the teacher to be told the error or their ways and I continued to live in silence. Thank you for the memories that the bigoted folks in Anchorage dredged up from the haze of the past with their demonstrations.
I wonder that if it is legal for bigots to discriminate against gays why would they complain to any entity of the city of Anchorage. Is there a way I don’t know about to count the incidents that are never reported? It seems to be a waste of paper. Do the right thing and pass one of the first two ordinances.

]]> By: Paul http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-378 Paul Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:57:12 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-378 When it comes to civil rights we all have a voice, pro or con. When descrimination is allowed in one area because the majority can impose it's will ( in the Valley for instance) can we in good conscience allow this to stand because we ( in Anchorage) don't live there? This may be an attempt to fillibuster until Dan gets in but it is up to the Assembly to decide when they have heard enough, and frankly I think they have. Unless there is something more the citizenry can offer as counsel to the Assembly I move it is time to vote. When it comes to civil rights we all have a voice, pro or con. When descrimination is allowed in one area because the majority can impose it’s will ( in the Valley for instance) can we in good conscience allow this to stand because we ( in Anchorage) don’t live there? This may be an attempt to fillibuster until Dan gets in but it is up to the Assembly to decide when they have heard enough, and frankly I think they have.
Unless there is something more the citizenry can offer as counsel to the Assembly I move it is time to vote.

]]> By: Joey Brockhouse http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-376 Joey Brockhouse Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:53:37 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-376 I do live in Mat-su and work in Anchorage as does my wife this law affects all of us. I do live in Mat-su and work in Anchorage as does my wife this law affects all of us.

]]> By: Joey Brockhouse http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-375 Joey Brockhouse Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:52:06 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-375 The rewrite seems to be a waste of time. It takes away too much,(private employers) and makes more folks unhappy. Bigotry is wrong public or private. The rewrite seems to be a waste of time. It takes away too much,(private employers) and makes more folks unhappy. Bigotry is wrong public or private.

]]> By: Emperor Bob http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-374 Emperor Bob Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:23:49 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-374 There should be no back tracking on this issue. It MUST not be diluted by omitting any sexual orientation. It should apply to private businesses, including landlords. I don't think people who don't reside here should have the opportunity to speak on this issue. If they have a business in Anchorage and they don't like laws, then they can take their business to the Valley. This seems to be an organized attempt to filibuster until Mayor Sullivan is sworn in. <a href="http://allalaskans.com/emperor/2009/06/17/gay-rights-a-fathers-testimony/" rel="nofollow">Gay Rights - A Father's Testimony</a> There should be no back tracking on this issue. It MUST not be diluted by omitting any sexual orientation. It should apply to private businesses, including landlords.

I don’t think people who don’t reside here should have the opportunity to speak on this issue. If they have a business in Anchorage and they don’t like laws, then they can take their business to the Valley. This seems to be an organized attempt to filibuster until Mayor Sullivan is sworn in.

Gay Rights – A Father’s Testimony

]]> By: Paul http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281&cpage=1#comment-373 Paul Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:23:09 +0000 http://www.patrickflynn.org/blog/?p=281#comment-373 I feel that if someone owns a business or works in Anchorage but, does not live here that gives them the right to be heard on issues regarding the workplace but not housing. On the other hand when issues regarding civil liberties are being hashed out we all have a stake. So this may be a special case. What bothers me is that under the guise of protecting religious freedoms we may be undermining the separation of church and state. Would Hindus or Buddists feel their religious freedom is at stake in this ordinance? Would it matter a hill of beens to those now offended when others religious freedoms are trampled by the Christian majority? I have not seen evidence to support they would. This is one skirmish in a religious war against American Democracy that was started by those in the extreme right wing factions of the Christian community. Others are drawn in by fear, ignorance and bigotry. I often ask myself what would Jesus do? I wish those now in opposition would do the same. I feel that if someone owns a business or works in Anchorage but, does not live here that gives them the right to be heard on issues regarding the workplace but not housing. On the other hand when issues regarding civil liberties are being hashed out we all have a stake. So this may be a special case.
What bothers me is that under the guise of protecting religious freedoms we may be undermining the separation of church and state. Would Hindus or Buddists feel their religious freedom is at stake in this ordinance? Would it matter a hill of beens to those now offended when others religious freedoms are trampled by the Christian majority? I have not seen evidence to support they would. This is one skirmish in a religious war against American Democracy that was started by those in the extreme right wing factions of the Christian community. Others are drawn in by fear, ignorance and bigotry. I often ask myself what would Jesus do? I wish those now in opposition would do the same.

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